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IN THE COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM CARDIFF COUNTY COURT
(His Honour Judge Graham Jones)
Strand London WC2 Tuesday 26th March, 2002 |
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B e f o r e :
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(1) JASON LEE | ||
(2) LINDA MAHER | ||
Claimant/Respondent | ||
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(1) PAUL CLIVE STEPHENS | ||
First Defendant/Appellant | ||
(2) JUNE STEPHENS | ||
Second Defendant |
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THE RESPONDENT did not appear and was not represented
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"The situation is that it is not as it meets the eye. We are quite confident of being able to enforce the judgment and the costs from our private investigator's effort in relation to these costs and the judgment."
"MR STEPHENS: The last time I was here I made an offer of £4,000.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: I did not hear that.
MR STEPHENS: I've got the papers here, sir. I made an offer of £4,000. That's all I can afford.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: Well, perhaps you should not be telling me this - you should not tell me about offers you have made without prejudice.
MR STEPHENS: What it is, I made the offer because I didn't want all the hassle. I was fed up with it; it's been going on for about six years.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: Yes, well, it has been going on - it is all six years ago.
MR STEPHENS: And I offered £4,000, but they said, `We want another 5,000.' I said, `Well, I haven't got 5,000, but 4,000 would stop it all.' I mean, that's all I can afford. And they said, `No, we want another thousand pounds.' Well, I didn't know what to do."
"... we have got a dramatic resolution of our differences, ..."
"... the order which I am most keen that Mr Stephens understands is one that I have been through with him now a couple of times, and so, as far as I am concerned, he understands it, but I want to be sure that the court is sure that he understands it."
"Yes, of course. Thank you, Mr Cottle, I am very grateful to you."
"JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: Mr Stephens, do you understand?
MR STEPHENS: Yes, sir, I do.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: My understanding of what you are agreeing to is this: you are going to pay them £4,000 anyway.
MR STEPHENS: Yes, sir.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: But you are going to pay that by the 4th of June next year, so you have got about six months to pay it.
MR STEPHENS: Yes, sir, that's right.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: All right?
MR STEPHENS: The only reason is, because what I got, they all had to be on some sort of special form, and I didn't know that.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: I am sorry?
MR STEPHENS: This termination letter was supposed to have been on some special form?
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: Yes, to be a valid notice it has to ----
MR STEPHENS: Well, I didn't know that.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: That is their letter, is it not, and not yours?
MR STEPHENS: Yes, but I didn't know that they had to put it on some special form. Do you know what I mean? So, in other words, they're not worth the paper they're written on.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: I think that is right, yes.
MR STEPHENS: So, that's why I'm doing it.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: All right. I see. Anyway, you are going to pay them £4,000. So, you understand fully, once I have made this order, that is an order of the court and if you do not pay them the £4,000, they can come along and they can get various orders, including making you bankrupt - there are various ways that they can enforce the order.
MR STEPHENS: Yes, sir. They'll get their money, sir.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: If you have got any house or any interest in any business or any property at all, they can get at that eventually. Do you understand that?
MR STEPHENS: Yes, sir.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: So, it is not an empty promise that you make. Once I have made this order, then you are £4,000 the poorer, all right?
MR STEPHENS: I know that, sir.
MR COTTLE: Thirteen and a half thousand, or is it eleven and a half?
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: I am doing it stage by stage. You are going to have to pay the £4,000, right?
MR STEPHENS: Yes.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: Then the £7,500, the costs - what you have said is that you will agree to pay the costs of the action which have got to be assessed, but you will not in any circumstances be liable for more than £7,500. The costs of the period when you were legally aided and your liability to pay those costs will be a matter, if they apply, to be assessed by the costs judge. Do you understand that?
MR STEPHENS: Yes, sir.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: But I imagine that - I mean, that is a fairly narrow period when you were legally aided; it is only from the 9th of April to the 1st of July. So, that is, what, two/two and a half months or thereabouts - it will only be, I would have thought - I do not know, obviously, because I do not know what work was done - but I would have thought it is a fairly small part of the costs - do you follow?
MR STEPHENS: Yes.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: So, realistically, you are going to have to pay pretty well the £7,500.
MR STEPHENS: Yes, sir.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: Pretty well; it may be that something can be reduced from it.
MR STEPHENS: Yes, but I'll have to do it monthly, though.
JUDGE GRAHAM JONES: The defendant's payments to be staggered to a level he can afford."