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IN THE COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM MANCHESTER COUNTY COURT
(HIS HONOUR JUDGE ARMITAGE QC)
Strand London, WC2 |
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B e f o r e :
LORD JUSTICE KEENE
LORD JUSTICE WALL
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MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL | CLAIMANT/APPELLANT | |
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MUIR & ANR | DEFENDANTS/RESPONDENTS |
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MR J STARK (instructed by Messrs Stephensons, 99 Corporation Way, St Helens, WA10 1SX) appeared on behalf of the Respondent
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(1) Two county court hearings and judgments on 30 March 2005 and 27 May 2005. At the second hearing the judge was, in my view, materially misinformed about what had happened at the first by counsel then acting for the respondent, who had appeared at the first hearing;
(2) A notice of appeal, grounds of appeal, and skeleton argument in support dated 3 August 2005;
(3) A skeleton argument on behalf of the respondent dated 28 September 2005;
(4) An appellant's reply to this skeleton argument dated 5 December 2005;
(5) Further submissions of the respondent dated 17 January 2006;
(6) A statement by counsel dated 27 January 2006;
(7) An appellant's reply to the respondent's further submissions dated 6 February 2006; and now,
(8) Additional submissions of the respondent dated 13 March 2006.
"1) This section applies to (a) applications for an anti-social behaviour order and (b) applications for an order under section 1B.
"2) Before making an application to which this section applies the council for the local government area shall consult the chief officer of the police force maintained for the police area within which the local government area lies."
"A Case Conference was held on 19 January 2005, with all relevant agencies working with the second defendant and her family. Having discussed the case with GMP [which I take it stands for Greater Manchester Police] a Certificate of Consultation was signed in relation to applying for an Anti-Social Behaviour Order for the second defendant. A copy of the Certificate of Consultation can be found in the bundle marked and exhibited as 'OE5'."
"Mr Fullwood said, 'Now on that occasion [that was the occasion before HHJ Holman], as you can see, the court was primarily concerned with whether or not to grant an interim order.
'Yes', said the judge.
Mr Fullwood: 'The test being whether it is just in all the circumstances to do so. That, as you know, does not involve any findings of fact. It is just an exercise of judgment on the part of the court, and HHJ Holman, as you can see, exercised his judgment in order to grant such a matter. He then ordered that skeleton arguments be prepared to deal with the matters that were canvassed on that occasion. Unfortunately, my learned friend was not there on that occasion but I think her colleague, Zoë Thompson, was there, along with somebody instructing her from the local authority. The issues, for example of consultation and of doli incapax were ventilated on 30 March, but it was really a matter put over for today's hearing for proper argument on those issues.'"
"Two points: the first is whether or not it is open for the court to consider that issue today and secondly, submissions on the merits. This morning, when I appeared, I stated I had not attended on 30 March. I have since spoken to counsel who did. Mrs Thompson stated that that issue was specifically raised. It was fully argued in front of HHJ Holman and he made a ruling that the certificate was in compliance and he did not accept the argument that the discrepancy between the witness statement and the actual certificate was such as to render the certificate a nullity."
"Well, I should be able to assist the court more, but I am afraid I do not have a note and I have a real difficulty in remembering what has happened. However, what I can say is that there was not anything like the ventilation of issues that we have had today. Mrs Thompson may remember it as being a full argument. Certainly one thing we can say is that further evidence has now been produced in relation to the consultation process, which was not available before HHJ Holman. HHJ Holman was concerned that an application for an interim order and at that stage he was looking at a different test. My recollection, as far as it goes and I am sorry that I cannot be of more assistance, is that he found that the certificate was at least evidence of some consultation, but certainly not the meaning of consultation or what consultation actually took place."
"57. Leaving aside any question of the apparent failure to certify a consultation in relation to the action which was, on the face of it, decided by the city council to be taken, a further difficulty arises here. Although this was not apparent at the time, I embarked upon hearing argument in relation to this point, because that argument extended over the short adjournment, Miss Short, on behalf of the city council, had had an opportunity to discuss this case with Mrs Thompson, who was counsel who appeared on behalf of the city council when the application came before HHJ Holman on 30 March. The information which Mrs Thompson was able to give to Miss Short and which Miss Short gave to me, indicated that HHJ Holman may have decided the issue that I am considering at the hearing on 30 March. That came, in a sense, like a bolt out of the blue, because if that was right, and there had been a decision on the merits, then what Mr Fullwood was asking me to do was effectively to re-hear something which could have been made the subject of an appeal, but which was not and which if it had been decided by a court of competent jurisdiction, was not possible to appeal to me.
58. Mr Fullwood, although he had attended the hearing before HHJ Holman on behalf of N, was not able to say, with certainty, what had occurred on 30 March in relation to the resolution of this issue, although it must be quite apparent from his elaborate written skeleton argument that when he was preparing it, he certainly was not of the view, for what that is worth, that he issue had already been decided and decided against him.
59. The difficulty I am in is this, that whilst I am content ordinarily to accept what I am told from the Bar, even though it comes second hand, the difficulty is to know what weight to attach to it. Is it decisive? There is no other evidence that the matter was decided finally by HHJ Holman. There is no judgment before me from him. There is no mention of this matter in the order which was drawn at the end of and as a result of the hearing on 30 March. The conclusion that I have reached is this, that although there is a risk that what I am being asked to do here is, effectively, re-hear a matter which has already been determined, it is not clear to me that is the case and it seems to me, in the context of the application now made and its importance, that it is right that I should deal with it on the basis of the evidence before me."
Order: Application allowed.