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COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM
by Coleridge J sitting in this building on 24 April 2009.
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
and
LORD JUSTICE WALL
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North Somerset Council |
Appellant |
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LP and MP and JP and JP (by their Children's Guardian JH) and NG |
1st Respondent 2ndRespondent 3rd and 4th Respondent Intervenor |
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P and P (Children) |
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The First Respondent did not attend but was party to the overall proceedings
Benjamin Jenkins (instructed by Bobbits Macken - Solicitors) for the 2nd Respondent
John Weatherall (Solicitors, Powells) for the 3rd and 4th Respondents
Joanna Lucas (instructed by Gordon & Penney – Solicitors) for the intervenor –
Hearing date: 10th June 2009
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Lord Justice Wall:
This is the judgment of the court
Introduction
Preliminary observations: Delay
there remains the facility for the aspiring appellant to approach this court by telephone and no doubt usually on notice to the other party. The approach can even be made out of court hours, first through the security officers of these courts (on 0207 947 6260) and thence through a Deputy Master, to a Lord Justice. He may decide to grant a stay, for example until the end of the following working day, in order to enable documents, such as a note of the judgment and draft grounds of appeal, to be faxed or emailed to the court, for his consideration of the merits of a further stay. Had such a course of action been taken in the present case, successive short stays might well have been granted and they would probably have precipitated not, in this case, an ultimately different result but at least an earlier dismissal of this appeal than that which I now propose.
this court is also likely to have made a direction for an urgent listing and fixed a date for that hearing. It must be emphasised that these facilities are designed to cater for urgent cases and must not be abused. When a potential applicant is legally represented, it will always be appropriate for that legal representative to make the approach to this court, but the profession needs clearly to understand that the emergency facilities are always available to deal with urgent child cases and can be speedily accessed by the profession by telephone where necessary.
The background to the appeal and the application for permission
The father's children by an earlier relationship
The proceedings relating to SP and JP
(a) the identity of the expert shall be agreed and notified to the court no later than 12 January 2009;
(b) the letter of instruction to the expert shall be agreed and sent no later than 19 January 2009; and
(c) that the report from the expert shall be filed and served no later than 16 March 2009.
- Are the pneumonic changes seen histologically sufficient to explain this very young infant's death, and, if so, would this explanation be beyond reasonable doubt or on the balance of probabilities?
- Could the deceased have died with, as opposed to from, her pneumonia?
- Is Dr. C's comment that the pneumonia "is not clearly bronchocentric" correct, and, if so (or even if not) what does this indicate or imply?
- Is Dr C's suggestion, in his comment section, of "an apnoeic response to the infection to cause death" a reasonable one, and, if so, what is the possible mechanism for this response?
- Do the microbiological findings assist in this context?
- Does the fat that no organisms are seen on the Gram stain help in any interpretations in this case?
- Are the congestion and / or the intra-alveolar haemorrhages consistent with, or even consequent upon, the pneumonia (whether responsible for death or not) and, if not, what could they represent?
- Does the known foetal distress affect interpretation of any of the histological lung findings (apart from the presence of inhaled amniotic squames)?
In my letter to you dated 26.2.09, I pointed out that a detailed review of the pathological findings in this case would involve other experts, and this is still my view, although I now think that only one further expert (a paediatric pathologist) will probably suffice.
Also, as previously stated, the pathological review will not be completed by your closing dated of March 16 2009.
Consequently, I would again respectfully ask (but now accepting that the clavicular fracture and the subdural haemorrhage are more likely than not to be attributable to events during delivery) whether the delay occasioned by instructing a paediatric pathologist is considered appropriate and acceptable to the Court given the overall context of the specific requirements of this particular case.
If the Court decides formally to instruct a paediatric pathologist, I would be delighted to review the case again in the light of his/her comments and opinions and to provide a more detailed report in which my views are expressed in more detail and with appropriate references.
The hearing before Coleridge J
Judge: But where is it going to get us, if we go down this particular track?
Counsel: My Lord, the direction of this is as set out in the position statement on behalf of the local authority in that…
Judge It gives rise to the possibility of suffocation as a cause of death.
Counsel Yes. That, then…
Judge But where does it go beyond that?
Counsel My Lord, it is at that very point in what it goes to two elements in terms of JP and SP. First of all…
Judge So, you are then going to want to re-open the whole question of blood in their mucus as well, or you may want to?
Counsel Obviously at this stage one goes cautiously, because the medical evidence is not complete.
13. There remains the much more thorny question of whether or not I should accede to the tentative suggestion of the forensic pathologist (Dr L) that a specialist paediatric pathologist be instructed to re-examine the whole question of (C's) death in the light of his proviso.
14. The local authority urge me to allow that series of inquiries to commence. I use the word "commence" because it is, in my judgment, highly likely that any such inquiry if it proceeds will be very wide ranging, very expensive and very lengthy. This would just be the start. The local authority, nevertheless, and indeed supported by the guardian, say that these matters are of such importance so far as the future of J and S are concerned that despite the implications which I will deal with in a moment particularly in relation to delay, I should nevertheless permit these further inquiries to begin.
17. I do find this a difficult decision to make because, as those in favour of the application quite rightly pointed out, it is always in the interests of the children and indeed in the wider interests of justice that issues of causation of injuries to children are investigated with as much care as is reasonably possible. However, there does come a time when the court has to stand back and take a rigorous look at the implications of applications of this kind in cases of this kind. As everyone who does these cases knows, the possibility of the instruction of experts to run to ground the various hares which come to light in the course of expert inquiry and investigation is often virtually limitless. Those of us who deal with these cases and the professionals in the case know full well what the implications of these kinds of endless inquiries can be. (Dr L) has sounded his cautionary note.
18. The fact of the matter in relation to this application is this: if the further expert who has been identified as Dr N (and who can, it is said, report in the first place within a fairly short period of time) comes to the conclusion that the original post-mortem findings are sustainable, that of course, is the end of it. Nothing further particularly will flow from it and the case will remain within the fairly narrow compass within which it is presently being conducted; namely an inquiry into whether or not these fractures are non-accidental injuries or whether or not there is an organic explanation for them. That is, as I say, what I have described is the primary issue in the case. However, consider for a moment the implications of him beginning to case doubt on the post-mortem findings now ten years old. If he disagrees with the post-mortem findings, it will then be necessary to conduct a complete inquiry into the case of death of C because although it may be possible at an early stage to cast doubt on the cause of death as being pneumonia, it plainly will not be possible, if that finding is set aside, to come to any other conclusion as to the cause of death within involving another wide range of expertise. If pneumonia does not stand as the likely explanation for her death, then the whole question of smothering, as raised by Dr L, becomes something which has to be considered. And not only the case of C – but also in relation to E because she too, I remind myself, presented with mucosy blood at a similar age, and also J who similarly has presented with those signs and symptoms.
19. It thus will be necessary for clear new findings to be made in relation to C's death first. That having happened and assuming it was to give rise to a serious doubt on the post-mortem findings; Miss Lucas (counsel for the intervener) has candidly said to me this morning that she would then be applying to Judge Ticehurst to re-open his findings in relation to E. The obvious reason for that is that if in fact smothering is an explanation common to both families, there is only one common parent, the father, and so (the intervener) would want the whole question of the perpetration of the injuries to E, which are presently laid at her door, to be re-considered by Judge Ticehurst.
23. After carefully considering this matter, I have come to the conclusion that the instruction of a further specialist paediatric pathologist is not justified on a proper investigation in this case. In an ideal world and if this new issue had been identified at the outset of the proceedings, it might have been something which could have been conducted in parallel, but now to begin that inquiry afresh and at this stage in the process is in the end and using the umbrella expression a "disproportionate" direction to make.
24. I am simply not persuaded at the end of the day that it will be possible even if eminent new experts do not opine as to the cause of C's death, it will be possible to make links between that case and this case simpliciter. If findings are made in relation to C which are different from those which are already available, it will require a huge further enlargement of the evidence and enquiry to look at all the possibilities separately the position relation to S and E and J. Conclusions will not follow simply from one case to another. Of course, the local authority or the local authority will then invite the court to draw the inference that since an injury of this kind may or probably did take place in the one case, it is something which it is proper and relevant to consider in the other case. But that by itself is not going to be good enough as everyone knows. This is not a general inquiry or investigation; it is an application by a local authority for a care order. It is for them to prove the case and it has to be proved to a proper standard, simply creating suspicions and raising possible hares is not in the end a useful or helpful exercise in trying to decide whether the threshold may be satisfied and what is best for these children. Nor will such an enquiry answer the primary factual questions which will underlie a threshold document.
25. Therefore, having considered the matter, I hope, with great care, and whilst recognising that in an ideal world these inquiries might have been undertaken, in this case I decline to give that leave. It is just too speculative, too slow and too expensive.
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