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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) Decisions >> Stanley, R. v [2007] EWCA Crim 2857 (07 November 2007) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2007/2857.html Cite as: [2007] EWCA Crim 2857 |
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CRIMINAL DIVISION
Queen Elizabeth II Law Courts 1 Newton Street Birmingham, West Midlands B4 7NA |
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(LORD JUSTICE LATHAM)
MR JUSTICE GIBBS
MR JUSTICE LLOYD JONES
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"(a) He dropped off the relevant skip knowing it was to be used for a criminal purpose;
(b) He did not know that the contents were aluminium tooling; he believed that it was stolen scrap metal."
"A person benefits from conduct if he obtains property as a result of or in connection with the conduct."
There is further clarification provided about the meaning of the word "obtains" in section 84(2)(b):
"... property is obtained by the person if he obtains an interest in it..."
Section 84(2)(h):
"... references to an interest, in relation to property other than land, include references to a right (including a right to possession)".
"For the purposes of this Part of this Act a person benefits from an offence if he obtains property as a result of or in connection with its commission and his benefit is the value of the property so obtained."
There was no definition or clarification of the expression "obtains property" within the 1988 Act. However, there was consideration of its meaning in the case of J v CPS [2005] EWCA Civ 746. This was an appeal to the Court of Appeal against a refusal to set aside a restraint order. At paragraph 38 of his judgment, Laws LJ considered the meaning of the word "obtain" and said as follows:
"Clearly it does not mean 'retain' or 'keep'. But no less clearly, in my judgment, it contemplates that the defendant in question should have been instrumental in getting the property out of the crime. His acts must have been a cause of that being done. Not necessarily the only cause: there may, plainly, be other actors playing their parts. All that is required is that the defendant's acts should have contributed, to a non-trivial (that is, not de minimis) extent, to the getting of the property. This is no more than an instance of the common law's conventional approach to questions of causation.
14. I do not believe that there is a separate requirement that the defendant must be shown to have control over the property, although in reality if he has been instrumental in getting it he will, no doubt, in some sense (and at some stage) have had control over it."
The respondents submit that in the present case the appellant was instrumental in getting the property out of the crime. He provided the skip and took the property away. It is submitted that the length of time that it was in his possession is of no consequence.