Neutral Citation Number: [2012] EWCA Crim 2676
Case No: 201104574 D5; 201104521 D5 
IN THE COURT OF APPEAL
CRIMINAL DIVISION
Royal Courts of Justice
Strand
London, WC2A 2LL

Date: Tuesday, 27th November 2012

B e f o r e:

THE VICE PRESIDENT 
LORD JUSTICE HUGHES 

MR JUSTICE RAMSEY 
 
MR JUSTICE IRWIN 
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HAMPSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL 

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BEAZLEY & BEAZLEY 
 
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Mr E Crorie appeared on behalf of the Applicant 
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J U D G M E N T 
1.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  We are all quite satisfied that you should have leave.  What decision the court will come to, we offer no view about.  However, we gather you have pending an application before the Crown Court for an extension of time to complete the process, is that right, to complete the process? 
2.	MR CRORIE:  Yes, the two years expires on 10th December.
3.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  You have our authority to tell the Crown Court that the reason why this case has not yet been dealt with is because I directed that it await the judgments in the Supreme Court in Waya, because it was obviously likely that they might affect the approach.  Now that they are available it can be dealt with, but I do not think it could have been brought in here any sooner than today, so it is not the Crown's fault that time has passed, and you may tell the Crown Court that.  If you need a transcript, you can get one.  
4.	The other thing which it occurs to us that we ought to do, since there must be a proper hearing, is to grant a representation order to the defendants for one junior counsel.
5.	MR CRORIE:  There is a request to the court from the defence solicitors, on a pro bono basis, if leave were granted.
6.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  Yes.  We think that they should have a representation order for one junior counsel.  They can share counsel, the point is the same.
7.	MR CRORIE:  Of course.
8.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  But they should have that representation order, and we will make it now.  Since we have given leave it is appropriate.  
9.	How long is it going to take Mr Crorie?  About an hour, an hour and a half? 
10.	MR CRORIE:  I would have thought an hour and a half.
11.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  An hour and a half time estimate.  It will have to be listed in the usual way, it is no help if we try and do the listing here, and the listing office will be conscious that it has been waiting.
12.	MR CRORIE:  I am very grateful.
13.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  Is there anything else we can usefully direct, Mr Crorie?
14.	MR CRORIE:  No, thank you. 
15.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  Thank you for coming.
16.	Do you understand what has happened, Mr Beazley? 
17.	MR BEAZLEY:  Yes.
18.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  There is a point to be argued, whether the Crown succeed or not is a different matter.  It will be set up, you will receive notice of it through your solicitors, and you shall have counsel here to argue the case properly for you. 
19.	MR BEAZLEY:  Thank you.
20.	LORD JUSTICE HUGHES:  Thank you very much indeed.