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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales High Court (Chancery Division) Decisions >> Dr Christine Gill v Stephen Woodall, Stanley Anthony Lonsdale & the Royal Society for the Prevention and Cruelty To Animals [2008] EWHC 1326 (Ch) (22 May 2008) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2008/1326.html Cite as: [2008] EWHC 1326 (Ch) |
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CHANCERY DIVISION
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B e f o r e :
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DR CHRISTINE GILL |
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STEPHEN WOODALL, STANLEY ANTHONY LONSDALE & THE ROYAL SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION AND CRUELTY TO ANIMALS |
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Cliffords Inn, Fetter Lane, London EC4A 1LD
Tel: 020 7269 0370
MS TALBOT-RICE appeared on behalf of the DEFENDANT
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MR JUSTICE NORRIS:
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Can I deal with the draft order? I will work from the draft that was annexed to your skeleton argument, Ms Angus.
MS ANGUS: My Lord, yes. I think we both formally need the direction in paragraph one-
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: You have paragraph one. I think the fees in paragraph two should be £3,000. From 28th May can you put 6th June, in paragraph 2.2. In 2.6, the report should be filed by 17th June. 3.11 would propose to stand. Have you any observations about that Ms Talbot-Rice? Single, joint expert...
MS TALBOT-RICE: My Lord no.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: I was suggesting Robin Jessop.
MS TALBOT-RICE: You were.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: But I did not invite your submissions on that. There is no reason to doubt Robin Jessop cannot act as a single, joint expert is there?
MS TALBOT-RICE: I don't think so.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: No. Right. Put in Robin Jessop there then. 3.2 can go.
MS TALBOT-RICE: [Inaudible] to 2.1.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS TALBOT-RICE: If Your Lordship put in evidence report a single expert in the field of accountancy or remuneration [inaudible].
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes. Yes.
MS TALBOT-RICE: Great.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Thank you. I am going to send you out to agree the details of the order and come back if you need to, but can I just deal with paragraph four. 4.2, I think claimant's experts report should be served by 10th June. 2 B, defendant's expert report by 24th June. And then in sub-paragraph four, joint expert report by 1st July. Any points in principle you want to raise about that? Right.
MS ANGUS: [Inaudible].
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: 1st July I said, yes.
MS ANGUS: My Lord, that leaves the issue of costs I think, and if you're happy with paragraph five and six of the order.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes I am.
MS ANGUS: My Lord, we had originally suggested to Wilson's, the solicitors for the first defendant, the appropriate costs order on any direction is the costs in case, it's what one would normally expect.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: However I'm going to depart from that, for reasons which I hope I'm going to explain to you relatively quickly, because I'm aware that your time is tight and precious today.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: yes.
MS ANGUS: My Lord, what happened was, as you will have seen from the correspondence that Ms Talbot-Rice reviewed in part, if I can ask you to look at Tab One, there's a, I beg, yes Tab One, page 10, in the bold numbering.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: There's Wilson's letter of 7th May, and then in that paragraph two, they say they're going to call an expert accountant and a valuer in relation to the valuation.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: And they say a new suggestion, we agree in all of the directions, and we'll let you have a draft order shortly.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: 9th May, next letter. We haven't received a response to our proposal in paragraph two so we'll be making an application to court for directions.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: We haven't had a draft order needless to say. 9th May there is a letter from Mishcon's to Wilson's explaining, questioning really whether this evidence is required. They refer to Gillet v. Holt and Jennings -v- Rice
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: And I think he had repeatedly said expert evidence on assistance cases is really not that important. They also say, and this is a point that I did mention in my skeleton, the responsible employer.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: Of the Human Resources Department of the University of Leeds has already set out what the loss of pension benefits are.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: Why do you need an expert accountant? All the points are, that are really being ventilated by Your Lordship today clarify why you want, a market valuation, and again on 12th May, over the page:
'Can you confirm you've abandoned your intention about an agricultural expert, we intend to apply for a medical expert. We're not sure if you've issued the application, if not can we defer making an application as it might be possible to agree directions.'
And then over the page, at 13, we make the point about an amendment, and can I ask Your Lordship to look at the final paragraph on that page:
'We await a response of our letter sent yesterday regarding expert evidence. Given that there's only nine weeks to trial, there is a pressing need for us to discuss and if possible attempt to agree directions in relation to expert evidence, failing which applications will need to be made.'
Over the page, Mr Keenan[?] tried again with Mr Steer[?] by email:
'In an effort to avoid incurring unnecessary costs [inaudible] our application to due process [inaudible] by close of business, please can you so consider your application, would you please send it to us.'
And [then they report after that the urgency in pleas?] and invite them to have a telephone call, which I submit is the sensible way to approach it, to discuss this.
Over the page at 17, the Wilson's lengthy letter. In the second paragraph My Lord, you'll see that they say, they have sent the application with this letter, so on 15th, that's when we got served with the application, they served everybody else on the Friday before, they apologise for not serving us, and they go on to say that they object to the medical evidence and they give some explanation at this point as to why they're seeking the expert evidence that they were seeking, but My Lord, at this point in time, effectively the claimant has been forced to issue an application for directions, which could have been done by a consent order.
My Lord, most of the points, in fact I think all of the points that we made in correspondence, the points which Your Lordship has made, and has led to the situation where every single piece of relief[?] that we asked for, the direction we asked for has been granted. The only difference being that Your Lordship has directed sequential-
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: Yes.
MS ANGUS: Provision of expert reports, well if that had been put to us, we would have agreed. So My Lord, in the circumstances, the fact that this has troubled Your Lordship today is, I would contest, the result of the third defendant taking an unnecessary, uncooperative and over-aggressive approach to this application for directions. And of course [inaudible] Your Honour's disapproval of that by ordering that the firm[?] is made to pay the cost of today in any event. And My Lord there is a costs schedule, if I could hand it up.
MR JUSTICE NORRIS: No thank you. I am clear that the order I should make on this application is that the costs will be in the case. This is a directions hearing. An application by you was necessary in order to amend the particulars of claim. The issues raised on that amendment really excited the other issues with which I have dealt. The fair order is costs in the case.