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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales High Court (Family Division) Decisions >> H (A Child) [2014] EWHC 1254 (Fam) (07 April 2014) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2014/1254.html Cite as: [2014] EWHC 1254 (Fam) |
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FAMILY DIVISION
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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SR |
Applicant |
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MR |
Respondent |
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1st Floor, Quality House, 6-9 Quality Court
Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1HP.
Tel No: 020 7067 2900, Fax No: 020 7831 6864, DX: 410 LDE
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.martenwalshcherer.com
appeared on behalf of the Applicant.
Ms N Sultan (instructed by Messrs QualitySolicitors)
appeared on behalf of the Respondent.
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Crown Copyright ©
Mrs Justice Hogg:
"… it was strangely observed that contrary to expectation the demeanour and moods of the guests [meaning father and mother] was found as tense as anxiety was writ large upon the faces of the guest-passengers.
That [the mother] was also found exchanging hot word even with the members of airport staff and was acting as if she was not part of a family but of three individuals. [She] was pushing the pushchair carrying the baby … whereas [the father] was pushing the trolley meant for luggage etc. [She also had] a handbag and her eyes were searching [for] her family members … as her brother, mother, a couple of cousins and some other males whom I didn't recognise were also there at the airport but [she] remained tense with this deponent despite acquaintance and common purpose."
"Our relationship started to deteriorate rapidly. As soon as I would mention anything relating to my daughter, [mother] would argue with me telling me that as my daughter was living with her mother there was no need for me to see her. I was upset with this and I used to try to explain to [mother] that she is my daughter and she needs a father in her life. After every visit to my daughter, I used to return home and have to deal with [mother's] arguments. [The mother's] family and [she] kept on telling me to go to G as they did not want me to see my daughter and if I was far away from her then I would have difficulty seeing her. I told them I cannot leave my daughter and they were all aware I had a daughter before we got married.
I [became] firm with [mother] and told her that I will not be going to G, I will not leave my job which I have got after 8 years of hard work and dedication and will not leave my daughter for any reason. After this [mother] became very difficult and would be in a constant mood arguing with me over little things. My friends also spoke to her but she was adamant she did not want me to see my daughter and wanted me to stop giving her maintenance money.
Around the beginning of December 2012, [mother] told me that her mother was very ill and she wanted to meet her. She started crying and said she was very worried about her mother. I told her we could not travel as H was very young and I did not want to take leave as I had only been in my job for about 2 months. [She] wanted to travel during Christmas and I told her that the tickets would be very expensive at that time of the year. Everyday after that, when I returned from work, she would tell me how she was worried about her mother and would regret it if anything happened to her. She begged me to go for a short while as her mother had allegedly been hospitalised and was very serious."
"[The mother] never told me she had made any plans of what she would do in Pakistan prior to going to Pakistan. By this time our relationship had turned into just saying hello and speaking about essentials and nothing more. [She] was very tense with me but I thought she was being like this due to her mother's illness."
"… their relationship [between husband and wife] had gone sour during [their] stay in [the] UK."
"I will talk about anything else when you are really thinking straight, when you know your place, know your reality, know your worth, know the importance of relations, know the place of your husband and know the place of your parents in law."
She said:
"I'm thinking straight now ... I've understood it in two days."
That might be a hint as to when the call in fact took place. There is then quite a lot of abusive language and the father, at the end of the first page, says:
"Listen to me first. First learn how to clean the house, how to cook, how to respect your husband and how to talk to him. Learn that. Tell your mother to teach you … Learn that for 6 months. When I feel that you have learnt ... when I have started to trust you…I don't trust you anymore."
"I don't care. If you don't trust me, I don't care. Don't live with me. Go on. I don't care. If you want to live with me, then you will have to live my way. I don't know any mother of yours. I don't know any brother of yours. I don't know any sister of yours. Whether they are billionaires, trillionaires, millionaires, whatever they are they are in their own house. I will live my way in my house. You are my wife. You have to spend your life with me. If you want to spend your life with me, then prove to me in 6 months that you care about your husband. You need to learn what they call the husband in Islam, what his place is and what respect he commands, what parents' place is and what respect they commands."
"When have I been disrespectful to your parents?"
To which the father replied:
"My father once told me not to curse again. I accepted that I must not. That's how you should treat your parents. If my father had told me to hand the passport over there, then I would have done it."
"You need to respect your elders. Your brother didn't show any respect. Your mum showed no respect. You showed no respect to any older person that was speaking and that was your elder. You had no respect for those younger than you either. You didn't even have any respect for yourself."
The mother said:
"Listen to me. Tell me about the respect you showed to my mum. You called her a bitch and what-not else. That's the respect you showed. In contrast, I called your father and told him that he was my father. Look at my respect and compare it to yours."
The father then said:
"I saw your respect at the airport."
To which the mother replied:
"Even then, I did not swear. Even then, I was begging."
"Tell me whose fault it is. He told me that both of us are at fault. That's what he told me."
She goes on:
"I am also accepting my mistakes but that does not mean that you should start swearing. Swearing at my sister, mother, everyone. You have called me a whore and what-not. Tell me, if you are so miserable with me, what character flaw did you find in me? What did you see?"
To which the father replied:
"When you want to go to your parents' house, you don't even tell anyone where you are going, let alone ask for permission."
"That is what you have to learn. That is what you'll learn there. That is what you have to learn. It is not my responsibility to call and ask you where you are going. It is your responsibility to call me and tell me. In fact you should ask permission from me. That I want to go to this place today, may I do so? That is your responsibility. You are my wife. I am not yours. These are the things you have to learn. This is the respect you need to learn.
The day you learn these things, I will come get you myself. On top of that, it comes down to the issue of trust again. My trust will grow slowly over time. I don't trust you not to do the same things again when you go there. And if you don't delete the emails you have sent to your sister, I will go report it to the police … That you have stolen my documents."
"If I have to come home and wash the dishes and do all the house work, then what is your purpose?"
To which the mother replies:
"When have you washed the dishes? Did I not ask you each time you were washing the dishes to step back and let me do it? I'll do it."
And he says:
"Listen! Your husband loves cleanliness. Your husband has told you that ten times."
He goes on:
"The kitchen was filthy. These are the things you need to learn. Ask your mother to teach you how to live with your husband. You need to learn all these things in 6 months. Your husband does not want to see a single dirty dish in the kitchen before going to sleep. You need to wash every single one before going to sleep. You need to collect all your husband's dirty clothes from every week or every five days yourself and wash them. You have to wash them … Your husband only eats at 6 pm every 24 hours."
"… you have had tea at 5 pm and are not hungry at six? You need to change your routine. You need to synchronise your routine with mine. If your husband wants tea immediately after food, then you have to make two cups of tea and sit and drink with him at 6 pm. Who are you to say that you don't drink tea with your food? … If you learn every single thing I have said in 6 months, then I will come and pick you up … That is my only condition."
'You have never said it like this to me. You should have explained it to me with love; you should have said: "S, I have this problem …" You always said that I am very nice and have no problems. I am this. I am that. You want me to smile. You want to do this and that. You put your hand on the Quran…the thing I am most disappointed about is that you put your hand on the Quran and made a fake vow.'
The father replies:
"I have never made a fake vow. What right does your brother have to ask for the passports of me and my child?"
The mother replies:
"He has no right, but I do ..."
The father continues:
"What right does your brother have to ask for my wife's passport? He told my father to give him the passport and to take [you and the child]. He said that in front of me. I asked him then why should my passport, my child's passport and my wife's passport be in his house … This happened to me. This conversation happened in front of me. Even if you pick up the Quran for that, I don't accept that. This happened in front of me. When he said that to my father, I asked why should my passport, my child's passport and my wife's passport be there. And I told you to come home with me. As soon as you walk into the house, I will put all the three passports into your hand."
She said:
"You did not say that. When you placed your hand on the Quran…You must remember …"
The father then said:
"Come to the house and I will put the passports in your hand. My passport will not stay at your brother's or your mother's house."
There is then a lot of argument about what he is alleged to have said and she criticised his father.
"I am not saying "come back to live with me". Go. Ditch me. This is a good opportunity to get rid of such filthy person. Why don't you get rid of me?"
To which the mother said:
"I am only doing this for my child."
The father replied:
"Not for the child. If you want to live with me, then you will have to live for me. Not for the child. I have some rights. I don't want a wife who wants to live for the child. If you want to live for the child, then fine, have him and raise him."
To which she said:
"… what am I doing wrong according to you? Tell me. I have being trying to make myself 'normal' for three months now, haven't I?"
The father replied:
"So this is your 'trying to be normal'? Scanning all the documents and emailing them to your sister? That is your 'trying'?"
And she says:
"Just like you are angry now, I was angry then. I did whatever came to my mind."
He says:
"You were angry right? That's why I have given you these 6 months."
And she says:
"What do you want?"
And he replies:
"You are going to stay there for 6 months and learn all these things. If you learn all these things and put your head in the right place, then you can come back to me … It's alright regardless of whether you accept it or not. The child is with you. He will stay with you. Raise him."
She says:
"I apologise on behalf of my family. Please forgive me. My child. My poor, innocent child's life will be incomplete if he lives only with me. For God's sake, please think about that. You will find someone else. My child will be left without a father."
"You were saying in front of my brothers and sisters on the first day that you are just coming back from the mouth of death."
She says:
"I did not say that."
She then goes on:
"I am trying my best. I don't want my family to be destroyed. That is the only reason why I am talking to you … Next time, I won't do it. I will clean the house. I will do everything."
Then she says:
"How can I regain your trust? How are you going to start to trust me if I am to live here for 6 months? Or how will I regain my trust for you?"
He replies:
"One can tell from a person's conversations. In 6 months, your attitude towards my parents, towards me and towards my brothers and sisters will tell whether you want to settle down or not."
"… he said that to my father, I asked why should my passport, my child's passport and my wife's passport be there."
"You were saying in front of my brothers and sisters on the first day that you are just coming back from the mouth of death."
That was him telling her that not only was he there at the airport but so were his family members. He did not know that he was being recorded, although she did. He was volunteering information. In his evidence he denied the presence of his family. However, from the call it seems her own mother was there and his parents and siblings.
"That because of [an unconducive] atmosphere, neglect and carelessness of the Respondent [who is the mother] towards the child, not only the physical but mental health of the child is in a very dangerous condition and there [is a] strong apprehension of further deterioration … if [the child] is not taken from there."
Then it says:
"That the petitioner [who is the paternal grandmother] is not being allowed to even see [the] child [and] demands that [the] interim custody may be given to the petitioner by this honourable court."