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[2004] NISSCSC C38/02-03(IB) (14 January 2004)
Decision No: C38/02-03(IB)
"The claimant has suggested that the Tribunal recorded that he could stand for ½ an hour. This is not so. The record shows clearly that he said he would NOT stand for ½ an hour & this is repeated in the Reasons."
In substance the Legally Qualified Member is not accepting that there has been or could be an error of law but is taking steps to ensure that the claimant is not non-suited by a decision by him to refuse to grant leave to appeal.
"Claimant describes pain due to arthritis and Varicose Veins. He came across as a genuine and honest witness. He described feeling a "wee bit uncomfortable" in prolonged sitting, he described being able to rise even without holding on but holding on automatically. He described being able to stand but not for half an hour without moving around. He described holding on on stairs in case he fell and walking for a distance and then stopping and walking again. He said he could bend his knees and bend over from the waist though with a little pain. He also said he could lift things from one place to another.
Taking the claimant's evidence in its totality and taking into account the claimant's description of a typical day as recorded by the Examining Medical Officer with its description of taking a bit of a walk, going out to the pub, playing snooker etc the Tribunal concludes that the claimant's ability to walk, climb stairs, sit, stand, and rise would be properly reflected by descriptors W(e), St(d) Si(d), S(f) and R(c) respectively attracting an overall total of 12 points. The Tribunal considered the claimant was able to bend and lift and found no other limitation within the context of the assessment."
The reasons are the reasons of the Tribunal which consisted of two persons, and not just those of the legal chairman, who was the Legally Qualified Member.
"… Standing – Do play Pool but for fun only. Sore leg – pins and needles – sometimes pain as well. I would move about at a bus stop. Would stand up against something. Moving about helps. When you would have numbness. I wouldn't stand for ½ hour in the one spot I would have to move about. …"
"From reading the decision I do not understand why I was disallowed. In relation to the descriptor for standing I told the Tribunal I could stand for approximately 10 minutes and I would have to lean against something or move around. Both myself and my representative can confirm this. However the Tribunal recorded that I could stand for ½ an hour. This is certainly not the case. The information I gave them should have meant 7 points not 3."
"The fundamental issue in this appeal is a straightforward one. When Mr Sloan was asked how long he could stand for, e.g. at a bus stop he said that after ten minutes he would have to move around. The chairperson recorded that he said 30 minutes and this is simply not the case. Of course this meant the difference between 3 and 7 points, and meant that if Mr Sloan had been awarded the 7 points he would have succeeded in his appeal."
"4. Standing without the support of another person or the use of an aid except a walking stick. | 4. | Cannot stand unassisted. Cannot stand for more than a minute before needing to sit down. Cannot stand for more than 10 minutes before needing to sit down. Cannot stand for than 30 minutes before needing to sit down. Cannot stand for more than 10 minutes before needing to move around. Cannot stand for more than 30 minutes before needing to remove around. No problem standing. |
15 15 15 7 7 3 0" |
The legislation makes it clear that the 10 minute period was crucial and whether it is more than 10 minutes or less then 10 minutes or exactly 10 minutes can make a considerable difference in the scoring. It seems to me that a Tribunal would have wished to clarify whether the claimant had to sit down after 10 minutes or whether he needed some other support or whether he merely required to move around. As the Tribunal did not feel it necessary to investigate these matters by asking further questions it seems to me that the Tribunal must have had no reason to address these issues. Therefore, in the circumstances, I conclude that I am not entitled to assume in favour of the claimant that the Tribunal got its facts wrong when assessing the appropriate descriptor in relation to the activity of standing.
(signed): J A H Martin QC
Chief Commissioner
14 January 2004