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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Walton v. Image Creative Ltd & Anor [2002] UKEAT 1471_00_1608 (16 August 2002) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2002/1471_00_1608.html Cite as: [2002] UKEAT 1471_00_1608, [2002] UKEAT 1471__1608 |
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At the Tribunal | |
On 29 & 30 July 2002 | |
Before
MR COMMISSIONER HOWELL QC
MS N AMIN
MR P A L PARKER CBE
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MISS C SPIRE (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Levenes Solicitors Grove House 140-142 The Grove Stratford London E15 1NS |
For the Respondents | MR MARTYN WEST Representative Peninsular Business Services Ltd Riverside New Bailey Street Manchester M3 5PB |
MR COMMISSIONER HOWELL QC
(1) what was the job she was taken on to do, and what was the nature and extent of the training she was to be given;
(2) whether she was forced to work in intolerable working conditions, made to do cleaning work and other menial tasks for everybody else, and even forced to carry out redecorating and building work when the firm moved its premises from Poland Street to Newburg Street;
(3) whether Mr Bayliss harassed her by making a vulgar remark about "tits" in April 1999, and whether Mr Sparks then wrongly failed to take action about it;
(4) whether Mr Bayliss wrongly excluded her from an opportunity of training on some new editing software called "Avid" when it was first being installed in May 1999;
(5) whether Mr Bayliss deliberately destroyed her work in mid June 1999, when he deleted some material from "Citizen Kane" on which he had been working and she had been practising;
(6) whether Mr Bayliss had made another vulgar remark about "knickers" in late June 1999, in such a way that the applicant felt (in her own word) belittled, and whether it had been agreed between her and Mr Sparks (to whom she complained shortly afterwards) that he would monitor the situation rather than confronting Mr Bayliss about it directly.
"19… We were, however, clear that the Applicant was asked to work for the Respondents as a runner/assistant editor with the expectation that she learn the editing job whilst there, using the opportunity to practise on the equipment when it was free and to use the skills of the two Respondents' witnesses to explain matters to her and to expand her knowledge but not to give her formal training.
20 We were also clear from the evidence that the Applicant had an unrealistic expectation of what she thought the job would be. She had previously worked in a large organisation, namely LWT. This was a small organisation with four employees which muddled its way through each day. The expectations of strict demarcation lines for work are very different in a large organisation from a small organisation and the description provided to us by both Mr Sparks and Mr Bayliss as to how everyone was expected to "muck in" and do various tasks presented to us as wholly realistic. We therefore found as a matter of fact that the circumstances in which the Applicant worked, finding that she had to do some cleaning, some washing up, some errand running and not having her own work station, were not in any way connected to her sex, nor could they be said to be intolerable working conditions. They were the working conditions in which everybody worked because it was a small company with key tasks in the form of editing.
21 As a matter of fact, we preferred the evidence of Mr Bayliss and Mr Sparks in relation to the applicant being asked to do painting and general tasks in relation to the move from Poland Street to Newburg Street. They said that they did the bulk of the work and Applicant offered to help. We accepted that that was the correct position. It presented as the most likely way that this event would occur.
22 We find as a fact that the Respondents did seek to support the Applicant in the way in which she learned how to use the equipment, they offered the training on the basis that she should learn from the manuals and be given some practical help. This was offered. If it was not to the level that the Applicant sought, it was from her misunderstanding, not on the part of the Respondents."
"26 In relation to the remark made in June (the "knickers" remark), it was clearly an extremely offensive remark to make. This was a matter reported to Mr Sparks and it was one that he took seriously. We therefore find that this remark was made. We do not believe Mr Bayliss when he says he did not say it.
27 We found Mr Sparks to be credible when he said that, following the Applicant informing him of this remark, they spent four hours in the pub discussing it and she said that he wished him only to monitor the situation, not formally to tackle Mr Bayliss. To agree to monitor the situation is to take action in relation to it."
"32…She was unhappy at the reply given to her and resigned, but her resignation could not be said to be on the basis that the reply of 22 December was the final straw in a series of minor breaches. The letter of 22 December was a proper reply to a grievance. It unfortunately did not give the Applicant the answer she had hoped for. That, however, does not mean that she can claim constructive dismissal within the meaning of section 95 of the Employment Rights Act 1996."
"We bear in mind that the Applicant has been ill but the Applicant was well enough to write the letter on 8 September setting out her concerns and a further very full letter on 27 November. She clearly could have presented her complaint much earlier than she did in relation to the alleged remarks. We consider that the action taken by Mr Sparks in relation to the June remark was reasonable given that he specifically asked the Applicant what action she wished him to take and was given the instruction to monitor the situation. In the light of that instruction to Mr Sparks and the fact that the Applicant delayed for almost five months after the final date when she could have presented the Originating Application, we do not consider that it would be just and equitable to extend the time limit in relation to this matter."
"throughout the hearing … displayed open bias and/or prejudice in favour of the Respondent";
and finally an alleged breach of Article 6 of the Convention on Fundamental Rights and Freedoms in not having afforded Ms Walton a fair hearing.
"Whenever an appeal is based on the perversity ground, this Tribunal must be extremely cautious not to conclude that the decision of the Industrial Tribunal is flawed because the Appeal Tribunal would have reached a different conclusion on the evidence or thinks that another Industrial Tribunal would have reached a different conclusion on the evidence. An appeal should not be allowed on this ground simply because the Employment Appeal Tribunal disagrees with the Industrial Tribunal as to the justice of the result, the merits of the case or the interpretation of the facts. This Tribunal should only interfere with the decision of the Industrial Tribunal where the conclusion of that Tribunal on the evidence before it is 'irrational', 'offends reason', 'is certainly wrong' or 'is very clearly wrong' or 'must be wrong' or 'is plainly wrong' or 'is not a permissible option' or 'fundamentally wrong' or 'is outrageous' or 'makes absolutely no sense' or 'flies in this face of properly informed logic'. This variety of phraseology is taken from a number of well-known cases which describe the circumstances in which this Tribunal (and higher courts) have characterised perversity. The result is that it is rare or exceptional for an appeal to succeed on the grounds of perversity. The reason why it is a heavy burden to discharge is that it has been recognised by those with wide experience and practical wisdom that there are many factual situations arising in the field of industrial relations, including sex discrimination, in which different conclusions may be reached by different Tribunals, all within the realm of reasonableness. It is an area in which there may be no 'right answer'. The consequence of this approach, also approved in cases of high authority, is that it is not appropriate or fruitful to subject the language of the decision of the Industrial Tribunal to 'meticulous criticism' or 'detailed analysis' or to trawl through it with a 'fine-tooth comb'. What matters is the substance of the Tribunal's decision, looked at 'broadly and fairly' to see if the reasons given for the decision are sufficiently expressed to inform the parties as to why they won or lost the case and to enable their advisers to identify an error of law that may have occurred in reaching the conclusion. Viewed in that way, the decision of the Industrial Tribunal is not perverse."
(1) the Tribunal's findings about the nature of the job the applicant was engaged to do, her own unrealistic perceptions of what it might be, the formality of the training to be provided, and whether she was treated unreasonably during her employment, were plainly justified on the evidence before them about what was said between the parties, and a common sense assessment of the inherent nature of this kind of employment for a young person just starting as a junior in a very small firm in the media industry;
(2) the conflicts of fact over what was or was not said and what did or did not happen in the various incidents complained of, were for the Tribunal to determine: they were entitled to decide which version they believed, or to conclude for themselves what the likely truth was on any matter, without accepting or rejecting the evidence of either side in its entirety;
(3) we do not accept the contention that there was no evidence to support the findings criticised in paragraph C of the Amended Notice of Appeal. We agree with the submission of Mr West on behalf of the Respondents that there was sufficient evidence before the Tribunal to warrant the primary findings already quoted from paragraphs 19-22 of their Extended Reasons; the conclusions that Ms Walton had unrealistic expectations of what her job would involve, and was mistaken if she thought she had been promised training of a formal nature such as being given courses, followed from those primary findings; and the comment about what they thought had really given rise to her illness was also a justified inference from the facts they found, the doctor's letter only repeating what he had been told by his patient.