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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Rochdale Metropolitan Borough Council v. Jentas [2002] UKEAT 494_01_2307 (23 July 2002) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2002/494_01_2307.html Cite as: [2002] UKEAT 494_1_2307, [2002] UKEAT 494_01_2307 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J R REID QC
MISS D WHITTINGHAM
MR N D WILLIS
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MR STEFAN BROCHWICZ LEWINSKI (of Counsel) Instructed By: Rochdale Borough Metropolitan Council PO Box 15 Town Hall Rochdale OL16 1AB |
For the Respondent |
MISS MELANIE TETHER (of Counsel) Instructed By: UNISON Employment Rights Unit 1 Mabledon Place London WC1H 9AJ |
JUDGE J R REID QC:
"(a) [Although] it was not unreasonable to fail to offer the permanent posts to the applicant without open competition, because even though a temporary employee may have been carrying out the job adequately, we feel that an employer is entitled to consider a wider pool of candidates and appoint on merit;
(b) the applicant was fairly treated throughout the selection procedure for the permanent posts for which she applied and no criticism has been made of the selection process;
(c) the applicant was fully aware that she was employed in a temporary capacity and that there was no guarantee of future work at the ending of the contract; and
(d) the Tribunal was satisfied that there was a genuine restructuring in the Housing Services Department and that the creation of permanent posts obviated the need for temporary staff."
"The weight to be attached to any evidence in a case is a matter for the Tribunal determining the facts. It can never be for an appellate Tribunal concerned only with errors of law to take upon itself the task of deciding what weight should be attached to particular facts."
And, a little further on:
"What inference is to be drawn from facts is a matter to be determined by the Tribunal hearing and deciding the facts, unless there are no facts from which any particular inference could properly be drawn."
It does not seem to us that in this case an appeal can properly be based on a suggestion that no proper or sufficient account was taken of the factual circumstances.
(1) the Respondent was not a permanent employee;
(2) contractually the Respondent had no such rights;
(3) it had been made fully known to the Respondent that upon the work on which she was temporarily engaged coming to an end, she would revert back to the Temporary Register as a matter of course;
(4) this was fully understood, appreciated and expected by the Respondent; and
(5) such finding caused the Respondent to be afforded the rights and privileges of permanent employees to the detriment of other members of the Temporary Register, in the absence of any proper or objective selection or recruitment procedure having been applied in the determination of whether the Respondent should receive such rights and privileges.
"It was apparent that no effort was made to determine whether suitable temporary work was available in other departments to which the applicant could have been transferred."
"Following receipt of that notice of appeal, the appeal tribunal made a direction that only the notes of evidence of the expert witnesses be transcribed for the purposes of the appeal. Let me say at once that it is very important that industrial tribunals should not be burdened with transcribing notes of evidence which are irrelevant to any appeal on a question of law. However, I fail to understand how if an appeal is based upon, or includes, an allegation that the industrial tribunal's decision was perverse, it is possible to contemplate allowing the appeal without having access to all the evidence bearing on the alleged perversity. In the context of this case, this had to include the evidence of the employees themselves, unless it was accepted that they had acted reasonably which would probably have been fatal to the appeal. It also had to include the evidence of the employers and in particular evidence of how they viewed the employees' conduct and the problems which they, as employers, faced in the situation as it developed."
"That an application for the chairman's notes of evidence to be supplied to the parties would only be granted where the applicant showed that the notes were relevant for the purposes of the appeal; that the notes would only be relevant where there was an allegation in the notice of appeal of no evidence to support a specific finding of fact, or that the industrial tribunal had failed to make a specific finding, or that they had misunderstood the evidence or that their finding was perverse."
"The EAT Practice Direction of 17 February 1981 makes it clear that notes of evidence would only be ordered where they are necessary for the purpose of the appeal. We do not accept that such notes become necessary automatically upon an allegation of perversity being raised. Nor do we read the decision in Piggott Brothers & Co Ltd as suggesting anything to the contrary. In that case, the tribunal below had found that the dismissals were unfair in all the circumstances. The appeal against that decision alleged that that finding was perverse. The Court of Appeal, perhaps not surprisingly, took the view that that ground of appeal could only be considered if all the chairman's notes were available. The Court of Appeal did so because that argument required a consideration of all the evidence so as to assess the fairness or otherwise of the dismissal. That is not this case. It is important to recognise, in our view, that allegations of perversity on appeal may take different forms and we do not read Lord Donaldson's comments as intending to apply to all cases where such an allegation is made, whatever may be the basis for it. In the present case, the allegation of perversity rests upon a specific and much more limited platform as we have already indicated. Nor is the appellant assisted by Martin v MBS Fastenings (Glynwed) Distribution Ltd. The passage from that decision which is relied upon by the appellant also says this:
'If it is intended to appeal upon the ground that there was not evidence to support the tribunal's findings, the appellant must take the necessary steps to obtain a note of the evidence.'
That is essentially dealing with a particular kind of perversity argument, namely, one where it is said, in effect, that there was no evidence for a particular finding or findings reached by the tribunal below. In those circumstances, it may often be the case that it will be necessary to produce the chairman's notes. An allegation that there was no evidence for a particular finding will often necessitate looking at all the evidence and that can only be done by obtaining the chairman's notes but, again, that is not this case.
It is important to bear in mind what was said in Webb v Anglian Water Authority [1981] IRLR 494 and, in particular, at p.496:
'Before any such order is made, the party seeking the notes should specify the exact finding which is attacked or the finding which he says ought to have been made. After all, the parties have been present at the industrial tribunal, they know the evidence which was given to the industrial tribunal and, before raising any allegations as to the findings of fact, they ought to know which findings they are challenging. If a party cannot, or does not, narrow down in this way the allegations of fact which are to be challenged, in general we think the notes ought to be refused.'
We are firmly of the view that general allegations of perversity are not enough. Such allegations will frequently merely be a pretext for a fishing expedition."
"(1) In determining for the purposes of this Part whether the dismissal of an employee is fair or unfair, it is for the employer to show -
a) the reason (or, if more than one, the principal reason) for the dismissal, and
b) that it is either a reason falling within subsection (2) or some other substantial reason of a kind such as to justify the dismissal of an employee holding the position which the employee held."
Pausing there, what we are concerned with is a "some other substantial reason" case.
Section 98(4) provides:
"(4) Where the employer has fulfilled the requirements of subsection (1), the determination of the question whether the dismissal is fair or unfair (having regard to the reason shown by the employer) -
a) depends on whether in the circumstances (including the size and administrative resources of the employer's undertaking) the employer acted reasonably or unreasonably in treating it as a sufficient reason for dismissing the employee, and
b) shall be determined in accordance with equity and the substantial merits of the case."