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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Keyhaven International Ltd v. Ewart [2003] UKEAT 1194_01_2401 (24 January 2003) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2003/1194_01_2401.html Cite as: [2003] UKEAT 1194_1_2401, [2003] UKEAT 1194_01_2401 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J MCMULLEN QC
MR B GIBBS
MR J C SHRIGLEY
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | MISS S JACKSON (of Counsel) Abbey Legal Protection 17 Lansdowne Road Croydon Surrey CR10 2BX |
For the Respondent | NO APPEARANCE OR REPRESENTATION BY OR ON BEHALF OF THE RESPONDENT |
HIS HONOUR JUDGE J MCMULLEN QC
"The Applicant launched proceedings for disability discrimination and her case came before the Tribunal at Southampton under the Chairman Mr Barrowclough. Today the respondent has been represented by Miss Jackson and she argues that there are significant issues that need to go to a Full Hearing but the centre of her principal argument is an argument that concerns the date of a particular meeting. The company's evidence was that there were four people at a meeting on 3 April 2000 that had discussed whether Mrs Ewart's job should be made redundant and eventually concluded that it should be. Because of the timing of the knowledge of the disability properly so called, suffered by Mrs Ewart, if that meeting truly took place and truly so resolved on 3 April 2000, then as the Tribunal said in its paragraph 26, it was difficult to see how Mrs Ewart's claim could succeed. The Tribunal said this:
"If the decision to dismiss the Applicant was in fact taken, as is alleged by the Respondents, on 3 April and is recorded at page 122 in the minute produced by Miss Volkers, then in our view, it is difficult to see how the Applicant's claim could succeed."
At the centre of Miss Jackson's arguments are arguments that either the Tribunal had no evidence whatsoever on which it could conclude that the meeting was on 3 April or that such reasoning as there is in the Tribunal's judgment that suggests that, and eventually concludes that, the meeting was on a much later date, was without adequate foundation. The Tribunal turned to the issue and in their paragraph 27 b), at its foot, they say:
"We do however, accept that the meeting took place before the Applicant's operation on 18/19 April, if only because we find Ms Emmerson's evidence on this point to be credible."
In context that rather suggests that Ms Emmerson, then a manager at Keyhaven, had said that the meeting was later than 3 April. I do not suggest that the very sentence that I have read necessarily leads to that conclusion, but in context that is what it would appear to have imported but Miss Jackson says there was absolutely no evidence of the meeting having taken place on any day other than 3 April 2000 and there was no written evidence to that effect, that there was no oral evidence to that effect, that there was no challenge to the assertion that the meeting took place on 3 April 2000, no argument that there was a meeting on a date other than 3 April and Miss Emerson's evidence, so far as her evidence in chief in writing is concerned, alleged the meeting was on 3 April, that leads to some puzzlement over the sentence earlier cited, 'if only because we find Ms Emmerson's evidence on this point to be credible. A little later than that, on the same page at paragraph 30, the Tribunal was extremely critical of the evidence on the company side. They said:
"It follows from all that we have said above that we do not accept the Respondents' evidence, and in particular that of Mr and Miss Volkers, that the extraordinary meeting took place on 3 April; or that the real reason for the Applicant's dismissal was redundancy, where in our view no immediate redundancy situation existed. We consider that evidence was introduced in order to try to mislead the Tribunal and to hide both the time of, and the true reason for, the decision to dismiss."
Well, that looks as if it was being suggested by the Tribunal that the apparent minute of the meeting was to some extent a false or dishonest document. It is a pity they did not more closely explain that was their conclusion. It is rather discomforting to find the Tribunal says that they do not accept the reason, the Respondents' evidence, which makes it look as if they were treating all four witnesses on the Respondent's side as not accepted, whereas a little earlier on the same page, to revert back to the passage we cited earlier, they find Ms Emmerson's 'evidence on the point to be credible'. It is not said Ms Emmerson was a witness for the Applicant, Miss Jackson is, amongst other things, not only taking a perversity point but in effect a Meek v City of Birmingham District Council point, saying that it is not clear why the issue of the date was lost, given, as I mentioned earlier, that no evidence was given according to the submission."
That was what an earlier Employment Appeal Tribunal made of the matter. The Employment Appeal Tribunal ordered notes to be produced. We have looked carefully at these notes and we endorse what the Employment Appeal Tribunal under Judge Pugsley said as a provisional view and now agree with that Tribunal fully.
"It is surprising, in our view, that Mr Wooldridge, having reassured the Applicant on the previous Friday [that is, 31 March] that her job was not in danger should not recall in some detail and perhaps a degree of embarrassment the circumstances of a meeting apparently called as a matter of urgency on the very next working day, specifically to discuss the Applicant's dismissal."
In respect of him and of Ms Emmerson, the Tribunal records:
"There seems to be no particular reason why they should recollect the exact date on which the meeting was held."
They all obviously did, because they wrote it in their witness statements.
"… we find her evidence on this point to be credible."
That may be referable to her evidence about the substance of a meeting which took place, but in fact the only evidence which she gave was of a meeting, the substance of it, and the fact that it took place on 3 April. With the benefit of the Chairman's notes, we have seen how the point about
3 April developed. In the evidence of Ms Emmerson, questions were asked by a Tribunal member, to which the answer is recorded by the Chairman as follows:
"I do not remember how the meeting on 3 April was called – it would have been pretty immediate."
The same Tribunal member, in the Chairman's notes, is recorded as eliciting the following evidence from Mr Wooldridge:
"(Concerning the meeting on 3rd April). I was told that we had got to have a meeting – it was short notice…"
In the cross-examination of Miss Volkers there is reference to 3 April, but in respect of Mr Volkers there appears to be no reference. Unusually in this case we have notes taken by the Chairman of submissions by the advocates. In neither of their submissions is any attention given to what then became the critical issue of 3 April. Neither advocate made any submissions in relation to this.