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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Marks and Spencer Plc v. Ryan [2004] UKEAT 0145_04_1009 (10 September 2004) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2004/0145_04_1009.html Cite as: [2004] UKEAT 145_4_1009, [2004] UKEAT 0145_04_1009 |
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At the Tribunal | |
On 17 August 2004 | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE ANSELL
MRS R CHAPMAN
MR C EDWARDS
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MS CATHERINE CALLAGHAN (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Beachcroft Wansboroughs Solicitors 100 Fetter Lane London EC4A 1BN |
For the Respondent | MR MICHAEL REED (of Counsel) Free Representation Unit 6th Floor 289-293 High Holborn London WC1V 7HZ |
SUMMARY
Time Limits
Reasonable to be extend time – Applicant believed had to exhaust internal appeal procedure before applying to Tribunal. Advice from Citizens Advice Bureau.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE ANSELL
"(2) Subject to subsection (3), an employment tribunal shall not consider a complaint under this section unless it is presented to the tribunal -
(a) before the end of the period of three months beginning with the effective date of termination, or
(b) within such further period as the tribunal considers reasonable in a case where it is satisfied that it was not reasonably practicable for the complaint to be presented before the end of that period of three months."
"Separately to any right you have under the Internal Appeal Procedures you may be eligible to have your case considered at an Employment Tribunal, but you would need to seek external advice on this."
"Independently of the internal appeal process, employees with one or more year's continuous service have the right to take a claim of unfair dismissal to an Employment Tribunal. If the claim is for discrimination (e.g. sex, race, disability, Trade Union activity or whistle blowing) there is no service criteria. You should seek independent legal advice in all of the above cases."
"19. The Tribunal accepts Miss Williams Ryan's evidence that she believed that she had to await the outcome of the internal appeal before she could make a complaint to a Tribunal. She referred to the advice given by the Citizens Advice Bureau and also to the Respondent's internal guide. In the circumstances, we are satisfied that it was not reasonably practicable for her to present her complaint within the necessary time limits. She was not aware that in order to protect her position, she needed to present a complaint before the three-month time limit expired.
20. Although she had the Tribunal's form and the booklet in [her] possession from late June onwards, we accept that there were other, far more pressing, considerations which prevented her from studying this information, relying as she did, on the fact that she could proceed to the Tribunal after notification of the internal procedure, when she received notification of the appeal on 6 August and submitted her complaint to the Tribunal within a reasonable period thereafter."
"Summing up, I would suggest that in every case the tribunal should inquire into the circumstances and ask themselves whether the man or his advisers were at fault in allowing the four weeks to pass by without presenting the complaint. If he was not at fault, nor his advisers – so that he had just cause or excuse for not presenting his complaint within the four weeks – then it was "not practicable" for him to present it within that time. The court then has a discretion to allow it [to] be presented out of time, if it thinks it right to do so. But, if he was at fault, or if his advisers were at fault, in allowing the four weeks [to] slip by, he must take the consequences. By exercising reasonable diligence, the complaint could and should have been presented in time."
At page 179 Scarman LJ added:
"Does the fact that a complainant knows he has rights under the Act inevitably mean that it is practicable for him in the circumstances to present his complaint within the time limit? Clearly no: he may be prevented by illness or absence, or by some physical obstacle, or by some untoward and unexpected turn of events.
Contrariwise, does total ignorance of his rights inevitably mean that it is impracticable for him to present his complaint in time? In my opinion, no. It would be necessary to pay regard to his circumstances and the course of events. What were his opportunities for finding out that he had rights? Did he take them? If not, why not? Was he misled or deceived? Should there prove to be an acceptable explanation of his continuing ignorance of the existence of his rights, it would be appropriate to disregard it, relying on the maxim "ignorance of the law is no excuse". The word "practicable" is there to moderate the severity of the maxim and to require an examination of the circumstances of his ignorance. But what, if, as here, a complainant knows he has rights, but does not know that there is a time limit? Ordinarily, I would not expect him to be able to rely on such ignorance as making it impracticable to present his complaint in time. Unless he can show a specific and acceptable explanation for not acting within four weeks, he will be out of court."
"I would venture to take the simple test given by the majority in Dedman's case [1974] ICR 53, 61. It is simply to ask this question: Had the man just cause or excuse for not presenting his complaint within the prescribed time? Ignorance of his rights – or ignorance of the time limit – is not just cause or excuse unless it appears that he or his advisers could not reasonably be expected to have been aware of them. If he or his advisers could reasonably have been so expected, it was his or their fault, and he must take the consequences."
At page 60 Brandon LJ said:
"Looking at the matter first without reference to the authorities, I should have thought that the meaning of the expression concerned, in the context in which it is used, was fairly clear. The performance of an act, in this case the presentation of a complaint, is not reasonably practicable if there is some impediment which reasonably prevents, or interferes with, or inhibits, such performance. The impediment may be physical, for instance the illness of the complainant or a postal strike; or the impediment may be mental, namely, the state of mind of the complainant in the form of ignorance of, or mistaken belief with regard to, essential matters. Such states of mind can, however, only be regarded as impediments making it not reasonably practicable to present a complaint within the period of three months, if the ignorance on the one hand, or the mistaken belief on the other, it itself reasonable. Either state of mind will, further, not be reasonable if it arises from the fault of the complainant in not making such inquiries as he should reasonably in all the circumstances have made, or from the fault of his solicitors or other professional advisers in not giving him such information as they should reasonably in all the circumstances have given him."
"The statutory test remains one of practicability. The statutory words still require the industrial tribunal to have regard to what could be done albeit approaching what is practicable in a common-sense way. The statutory test is not satisfied just because it was reasonable not to do what could be done.
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Reasonably practicable means "reasonably capable of being done" not "reasonable".
Further, at page 205 he added:
"There may be cases where the special facts (additional to the bare fact that there is an internal appeal pending) may persuade an industrial tribunal, as a question of fact, that it was not reasonably practicable to complain to the industrial tribunal within the time limit. But we do not think that the mere fact of a pending internal appeal, by itself, is sufficient to justify a finding of fact that it was not "reasonably practicable" to present a complaint to the industrial tribunal."
"From the cases, it is our view that the following general principles seem to emerge. The first, as time passes, so it is likely to [be] much more difficult for applicants to persuade a tribunal that they had no knowledge to their rights in front of industrial tribunals to bring proceedings for unfair dismissal under the Act of 1978 and, of course, that is less likely to be acceptable because the time limit has been increased from four weeks to three months. Second, that where an applicant has knowledge of his rights to claim unfair dismissal before an industrial tribunal, then there is an obligation upon him to seek information or advice about the enforcement of those rights. Third, that if his advisers give him unsound advice or fail to give him proper advice, or fail to give him advice on a relevant issue, then the failure of those advisers is the failure of the applicant and does not provide a good excuse for the escape clause… Lastly, in the light of the foregoing principles, it is the duty of an industrial tribunal to make detailed and exhaustive enquiries of the applicant once it is established that he had knowledge of his rights."
"13. Secondly, Mr Pitt-Payne contended that the Industrial Tribunal ought to have concluded that, once Mr Sen had consulted a solicitor, it became reasonably practicable for him to present his application in time. He advanced as a point of principle that, once a prospective complainant seeks advice from a solicitor or other skilled adviser, then he is bound by any error the adviser may make and cannot thereafter contend that it was not reasonably practicable for him to present the complaint in time.
14. Mr Pitt-Payne drew our attention to two authorities in particular, the first of them Dedman v British Building & Engineering Appliances Ltd [1973] IRLR 379 and the second Riley and another v Tesco Stores Ltd [1980] IRLR 103 (CA). Those authorities, Mr Pitt-Payne contended, gave support to the principle for which he contended.
15. I would for my part accept that those authorities, and in particular the passages referred to, do lend support to the proposition for which Mr Pitt-Payne contended. When a prospective complainant consults a solicitor or a trade union official or similar adviser, the authorities do suggest that he can no longer say that it was not reasonably practicable for him to comply with the time limit even if the adviser advised wrongly.
16. I must, however, say that, for my part, I find the rationale of that principle very hard to understand. If the test is whether it was reasonably practicable or practically possible or reasonably feasible to present the complaint in time, it would seem to me irrelevant whether or not the complainant had consulted a solicitor. That would seem to me to be a possible approach to the language of the section but it is one which previous authority has firmly rejected and such authority has concentrated on the state of mind of the prospective complainant and the extent to which he under- stood his position. If, however, it is his state of mind and his understanding of his position which matters, it seems strange to me that a complainant who is misled by incorrect advice into misapprehending his rights is unable to rely on the escape clause provided in s.67(2). If the rationale is that he cannot rely on the escape clause because in such circum- stances it is his adviser and not the employer who should compensate him, then there would appear, as the authorities suggest, to be a distinction between a solicitor who is prima facie liable for misleading advice and other sources of advice which are not, or may not be, liable for giving incorrect advice. In the second category I would put an employee of an Industrial Tribunal whose liability for incorrect advice is at best far from clear.
17. I do not for my part find it easy to apply these principles because, as I have indicated, I do not find it easy to understand them. I question, however, whether the earlier cases were really purporting to lay down a rule of law to govern what is essentially a question of fact, and I am not persuaded that the prospective complainant loses for all time his rights to rely on the escape clause in s.67(2) absolutely once he consults a solicitor potentially liable for wrong advice if, as in the present case" he distrusts that advice and immediately proceeds to obtain further advice from a body such as an Industrial Tribunal which may not be so liable. That, in effect, was the decision both of the Industrial Tribunal and of the Employment Appeal Tribunal and I do not, for my part, feel able to say that they were wrong in law to reach the conclusion that they did."
"While I do not, as I have said, see any difference in principle in the effect of reasonable ignorance as between the three cases to which I have referred, I do see a great deal of difference in practice in the ease or difficulty with which a finding that the relevant ignorance is reasonable may be made. Thus, where a person is reasonably ignorant of the existence of the right at all, he can hardly be found to have been acting unreasonably in not making inquiries as to how, and within what period, he should exercise it. By contrast, if he does know of the existence of the right, it may in many cases at least, though not necessarily all, be difficult for him to satisfy an industrial tribunal that he behaved reasonably in not making such inquiries."
"19. She was not aware that in order to protect her position, she needed to present a complaint before the three-month time limit expired."