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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Diamond v Park Lane College [2005] UKEAT 0249_05_2507 (25 July 2005) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2005/0249_05_2507.html Cite as: [2005] UKEAT 249_5_2507, [2005] UKEAT 0249_05_2507 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE BEAN
MS G MILLS MBE
MR J C SHRIGLEY
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellant | MR M PALMER (Of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Michael Scott and Co Solicitors 27 Britannia Street London WC1X 9JP |
For the Respondent | MR R WHITE (Of Counsel) Instructed by: First Assist Group Ltd Marshall Court Marshall Road Sutton Surrey SM1 4DU |
Time off for TU activities. Claimant lectured for 20 hours a week with 10 hours preparation. She was allowed 12 Thursdays off with pay, to attend a TUC course, but on condition that this was all set against preparation time. ET held that as a matter of law this did not infringe her Section 168 right to time off. Held by Employment Appeal Tribunal, the issue was one of reasonableness. Remitted to new ET
Composition of ET – Section 168 claims for time off for TU activities should be heard by 3 members – not Chairman alone.
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE BEAN
"I do not consider that approaching this case on the basis of its own facts is either helpful or necessary. I so indicated to both advocates during the course of closing submissions and both accepted that the issue before the Tribunal is, in reality, one of law and is not to be decided on the particular facts of the Claimant's actual working pattern. It seems to me that approaching the matter in that way would not be helpful either to the Claimant or the Respondent or to other persons who might be affected by this decision or any appeal from it."
"Time off for carrying out trade union duties
(1) An employer shall permit an employee of his who is an official of an independent trade union recognised by the employer to take time off during his working hours for the purpose of carrying out [trade union duties] …
(2) He shall also permit such an employee to take time off during his working hours for the purpose of undergoing training in aspects of industrial relations:-
(a) relevant to the carrying out of such duties as are mentioned in subsection (1), and(b) approved by the Trades Union Congress or by the independent trade union of which he is an official.
(3) The amount of time off which an employee is to be permitted to take under this Section and the purposes for which, the occasions on which and any conditions subject to which time off may be so taken are those that are reasonable in all the circumstances having regard to any relevant provisions of a Code of Practice issued by ACAS.
(4) An employee may present a complaint to an industrial tribunal that his employer has failed to permit him to take time off as required by this Section."
Section 169(1) provides that:
"An employer who permits an employee to take time off under Section 168 shall pay him for the time taken off pursuant to the permission"
Section 173(1) states that:
"For the purposes of Section 168 the working hours of an employee shall be taken to be any time when in accordance with his contract of employment he is required to be at work."
"There is no statutory requirement to pay for time off where the duty is carried out at a time when the official would not otherwise have been at work but staff who work part time will be entitled to be paid if staff who work full time would be entitled to be paid in all cases the amount of time off must be reasonable."
"26 The two industrial members sitting with me have a substantial number of years' experience of the industrial scene dealing with these very issues, and it is their considered view, taken with the background of the guidance from ACAS, that arrangements which have been made between employers, shop stewards and trade unions in connection with s.27 training have been highly successful, due in no small part to its total flexibility. It is almost impossible to seek to legislate for each and every permutation of facts and circumstances. Section 27(2) emphasises the approach of 'reasonable in all the circumstances having regard to the provisions of the Code'. They emphasise that if the employer is not reasonable then the shop steward has a right to apply to an Industrial Tribunal, and this emphasises the need for flexibility and for a reasonable approach to the problems that may arise. Moreover the wording of s.27(2) indicates that the issue before an Industrial Tribunal could relate to the amount of 'time off' or to payment in respect of it or to both. This is the point which we have already made. They would also emphasise the absence of reported cases as some indication that the cooperation between management and trade unions has been sensibly maintained and is to be encouraged. This, in their view, is an area where confrontation has not emerged and where it should not be encouraged. The application of rigid rules has no place in this situation. The length of 'time off' is not necessarily the same as the hours spent enabling the employee to attend a course. In considering reasonableness it must also be relevant to take into account not only the physical ability to attend, but also the importance of being able to benefit from the course itself. All these aspects would be relevant for an Industrial Tribunal if the issue was whether the terms of the permission granted were reasonable.
27. In support of their understanding of the practice at present being effected we give the following examples:
(a) It has been the practice for many years for trade union courses to be arranged at the weekend so as to minimise the interruption of the work process. In this case seemingly there is no need to seek permission to take time off because it is not interfering with those hours when the employee should be 'at work'. However, there may be occasions when a shop steward is involved in weekend work.(b) There may be occasions when there is a short course in the morning and where an employee is on shiftwork. That course may extend over a number of weeks and his shifts may change. In those circumstances the shifts are often re-arranged so as to minimise the interference with the working hours of the individual.(c) If a course takes place on a Saturday at the other end of the country or abroad, it may be reasonable and necessary that a shop steward is given time to travel on the previous day. He might he given time off on a Friday afternoon. If he is on shift work it may be reasonable to ask him to change to an early shift on that day so as to allow time for travel.(d) If a shop steward is on night duty it may very well be that he should be given a whole night off work so that he can sleep and attend his course on the following day. If the course lasts all day and finishes in the late afternoon it may be reasonable to allow a second night off work because it could be considered dangerous if the employee fell asleep when working near moving machinery.(e) There may be occasions where there is the odd hour overlap one way or the other and an employer quite sensibly and reasonably does not require that hour to be worked. Indeed it may be taken up in travelling time. The Code of Practice envisages many different workplaces and patterns of work and it is impossible to expect that the hours spent on a course will necessarily take time out of the hours during which the shop steward is contracted to attend 'at work'(f) The applicant might have argued to an Industrial Tribunal that to expect him to work for the whole of the evening shift was unreasonable, but he did not do so.
28 I am impressed by the approach of the industrial members, not only looked at from their own extensive experience but also from the history of the way that arrangements have in fact been made in practice. Since its inception there have been only a very few cases involving s.27 and none on this particular issue. I am also impressed by the fact that the present respondents have been operating for some years under their rules of practice which have been accepted by the trade unions involved."
"It seems to me that it is in the nature of any employment, whether it is artificially divided between contact time and departmental duties (as here) or whether, as is more normal, there is no such division, that an employee who is absent from work to attend a Trade Union course (or in the case of Mr Radcliffe, to carry out public duties) will necessarily not be able to spend the full number of contracted hours carrying out the work which is the subject matter of the contract of employment. Persons who choose to act as Councillors or as Trade Union representatives must appreciate that when they seek that role. If Parliament had intended that, in addition to the right to attend the relevant Trade Union course, the relevant contractual duties should be correspondingly reduced, it would have been simple in the extreme for there to be a subsection within Section 168 to that effect. As I read it, Section 168 does not purport to vary the contract of employment in any manner. It is simply provides that, if an employee is absent from work with the permission of the employer for a relevant purpose (as occurred here) then that employee is entitled to be paid. Some employers might be willing to make the concession which Mr Palmer contends should apply here. Some employers might be equally unwilling to apply it. That is a matter for those parties. I hold that there is nothing in the section which requires the reduction in working duties for which Mr Palmer contends."