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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Ashbourne v Department of Education & Skills & Ors [2007] UKEAT 0123_07_2611 (26 November 2007) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2007/0123_07_2611.html Cite as: [2007] UKEAT 0123_07_2611, [2007] UKEAT 123_7_2611 |
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At the Tribunal | |
On 12 October 2007 | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE PETER CLARK
DR K MOHANTY JP
MS N SUTCLIFFE
MR P ASHBOURNE |
APPELLANT |
RESPONDENT | |
MR M J COLLINS |
APPELLANT |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellants |
MR P ASHBOURNE (Appellant in Person) |
For the Respondent |
MR B CARR (of Counsel) Instructed by: The Treasury Solicitor - Employment Team One Kemble Street London WC2B 4TS |
SUMMARY
Unfair Dismissal: Exclusions including worker/jurisdiction
Fixed Term Regulations
Teachers employed by DfES working wholly abroad in European schools. Whether Employment Tribunal has jurisdiction over unfair dismissal and fixed-term employment claims. Serco principles applied in each case.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE PETER CLARK
Background
The Facts
Lawson v Serco
(a) the employer has a place of business at an establishment in GB
(b) the work is for the purpose of the business carried on at the establishment and
(c) the employee is normally resident in GB at certain times.
The Employment Tribunal's reasoning
"The "something more" which is necessary may be provided in the case of employees posted abroad by a British employer for the purposes of a business carried on in Great Britain. Before embarking on the analysis of whether the Claimants in this case can be said to fall within that category we remind ourselves that the issue that we are dealing with is not the jurisdiction of this Tribunal over the claims, but whether the Claimants have the right of protection from unfair dismissal by domestic legislation, having regard to the place where they carried out their work. In assessing whether the Claimants can be regarded as posted abroad for the purposes of a business carried out in Great Britain the question is whether they were employed overseas as representatives of a business conducted at home. The Claimants suggest that in carrying out their teaching duties in the European schools outside Great Britain they were furthering the United Kingdom Government's influence in European Union countries. The Tribunal is unable to accept that proposition. In the Tribunal's judgment if the Respondent could be said to be carrying on any business in Great Britain this, it seems to us, must be the business of government and administration. As we have said, the dispute before us has arisen only because the Respondent does not direct employ teachers within the United Kingdom. The Claimants were in the business of carrying out school teaching duties at their respective schools, which cannot be said to have been for the purposes of the Respondent's "business" carried on in Great Britain. Although the British Government via the Respondent has a representative on the European Schools' governing body, to the extent to which the Claimants were supporting any enterprise going beyond their day-to-day teaching duties, it was the overall enterprise of the European Union and the benefits of the mobility of its officials throughout Europe which was being supported by the Claimants' teaching duties or other activities, rather than as a representative of the business carried on in Great Britain by the Department for Education and Skills. Whilst the Respondent undoubtedly has a shared interest together with other member states in the running of the European schools it is, in our judgment, stretching language too far to suggest that they are engaged for the purposes of a business carried on by the Department for Education and Skills in Great Britain. For these reasons we conclude that the Claimants do not fall within the first principle explained by Lord Hoffmann under which expatriate employees can be regarded as falling within territorial grasp of section 94(1)."
Appeals to the EAT
These Appeals
"It is impossible for this Tribunal to determine whether or not the advice received by Mr Collins was correct because the point was never tested."
As Mr Ashbourne points out, the Tribunal did not thereafter return to the issue later in their reasons.
"I would also not wish to burden tribunals with inquiry into the systems of labour law of other countries."
No doubt this Tribunal had that dictum firmly in mind when considering the present case.