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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Central and North West London Mental Health NHS Trust v. Amara [2008] UKEAT 0019_08_2305 (23 May 2008) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2008/0019_08_2305.html Cite as: [2008] UKEAT 0019_08_2305, [2008] UKEAT 19_8_2305 |
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At the Tribunal | |
On 16 April 2008 | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE REID QC
MS V BRANNEY
SIR ALISTAIR GRAHAM KBE
MENTAL HEALTH NHS TRUST |
APPELLANTS |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellant | MR BEN LYNCH (of Counsel) Instructed by: Radcliffes LeBrasseur 5 Great College Street London SW1P 3SJ |
For the Respondent | MR BRUCE TATTERSALL (of Counsel) Instructed by: Melvyn Everson & Co Ltd Solicitors Suite 2U 14-16 Tiller Road Docklands London E14 8PX |
SUMMARY
Unfair Dismissal – Reasonableness of dismissal – contributory fault
R was a nurse at a mental hospital. A patient alleged that he had met R outside the hospital and R had taken him to his home where crack had been smoked. R was subject to disciplinary proceedings and dismissed. The ET held that the employer's investigation was not within the band of reasonable responses, that R had been unfairly dismissed and that there should be no deduction from the award. On the employer's appeal held: The ET had not substituted its own views for that of the employer, was entitled to hold there should be no deduction from the award and had not reached perverse conclusions. Appeal dismissed.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE REID QC
14.1. TM's complaints were only made 10 months after the date on which the incidents were alleged to have occurred.
14.2. Since TM had been absent without leave on the night in question it was possible he could have observed Mr Amara, followed him to his address, and thereby familiarised himself with the external appearance of his flat and its location.
14.3. No effort was made to check on the internal layout of the flat.
14.4. There were important discrepancies between TM's description of the interior of the flat and Mr Amara's.
14.5. The Trust had made no inquiry of the nurse who had noted that on TM's return to the ward he had said he had got drunk and spent the night crashed out outside the hospital.
14.6. The Trust had not probed apparent discrepancies in differences between the three accounts TM had given. [There were discrepancies as to whether he had left the ward with Mr Amara or had met him later at Strutton Ground after TM had had a Chinese meal, and as to whether both TM and Mr Amara had smoked the crack or only Mr Amara].
14.7. There was no investigation of the allegation made by TM against Ms Ward.
14.8. The Trust had not adhered to its own disciplinary policy in that (a) it had failed to take the written statements from relevant persons, including the patient and Ms Ward; (b) the final notes relating to the three interviews with TM were not submitted to him for agreement; (c) TM was never asked to submit a written version of his allegations, which could have been submitted to Mr Amara; (d) Mr Amara was never asked to provide a written statement to give his version of events; (e) Mr Amara was not given the opportunity to meet the allegations at the investigation stage, despite having given an explanation for missing the second investigatory interview; (f) Mr Amara had not been asked to submit a written statement during the investigation.
"In one sense it is true that, if the application of that approach leads the members of the tribunal to conclude that the dismissal was unfair, they are in effect substituting their judgment for that of the employer. But that process must always be conducted by reference to the objective standards of the hypothetical reasonable employer which are imported by the statutory references to "reasonably or unreasonably" and not by reference to their own subjective views of what they would in fact have done as an employer in the same circumstances. In other words, although the members of the tribunal can substitute their decision for that of the employer, that decision must not be reached by a process of substituting themselves for the employer and forming an opinion of what they would have done had they been the employer, which they were not."
"First of all, there must be established by the employer the fact of that belief; that the employer did believe it. Secondly, that the employer had in his mind reasonable grounds upon which to sustain that belief. And thirdly, we think, that the employer, at the stage at which he formed that belief on those grounds, at any rate at the final stage at which he formed that belief on those grounds, had carried out as much investigation into the matter as was reasonable in all the circumstances of the case. It is the employer who manages to discharge the onus of demonstrating those three matters, we think, who must not be examined further."
See [1980] ICR 303 at 304.
24.1. The Trust had accepted the truth of TM's statements without testing them for consistency and accuracy when Mr Harris had looked at the outside of Mr Amara's block of flats, checked the duty roster for the night, and adverted to the accuracy of TM's complaint about the Freedom pass.
24.2. TM was too mentally ill to make an accurate statement, when the Trust had waited until the medical team had confirmed that TM's mental health had improved before making the investigation.
24.3. The failure to ask Mr Amara for a written statement when that failure was rectified before the appeal and the Trust's departure from its disciplinary procedure was rectified by the full hearings and the appeal.
24.4. The Trust had proceeded to the disciplinary stage because of a desire to appease TM when it proceeded at the stage when Mr Harris's investigation showed there was enough evidence to support disciplinary proceedings.
24.5. The Trust's failure to inquire into the interior of Mr Amara's flat when Mr Amara had accepted that TM's description was "somehow accurate".
24.6. The Trust's failure to inquire into how time had been spent at the flat when that was irrelevant to whether the offence had been committed.
24.7. The Trust's failure to inquire into the allegations against Ms Ward when these were irrelevant given that one of the other allegations he made was shown to be true.
24.8. The Trust's requirement "in effect" that Mr Amara prove his innocence when there was no such requirement.
24.9. The Trust's failure to consider the possibility that TM was making a false allegation when it did expressly consider and reject that possibility.