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[2006] UKSSCSC CI_142_2006 (23 August 2006)
CI/142/2006
DECISION OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY COMMISSIONER
"(The claimant) had no reason, she told the Tribunal, to believe that (Sergeant T) had not accepted her reasons for not wanting to fall in with his suggested new shift pattern until (Sergeant T) called her into his office for a "a chat in private" on 12 May 2004 when she had returned to work in the normal way following her rest days. She had no prior notice of this meeting and did not know what was to be discussed. She and the Sergeant had their discussion in his office. There were only the two of them present. He said he wanted to discuss "roles and responsibilities" and the conversation soon turned to the question of her shift pattern. (The claimant) was dismayed when having previously seemed to accept her reasons for not wanting to change this pattern, (Sergeant T) said he saw no alternative but for her to work the shift pattern he was proposing. (Sergeant T) also let her know he had discussed the matter with the Personnel Office and had informed them of very sensitive she had previously confided to him in confidence. (The claimant) said that at this point in the conversation she could see where matters where going and became shaky and worried. As she realised the breach of her confidence which had occurred she became extremely distressed. As the conversation, which lasted approximately ten minutes in all, progressed (the claimant) became increasingly distressed and (Sergeant T) said that if she was not prepared to work the shift pattern he wanted, he did not know what would become of her position within the Intelligence Office. (The claimant) felt it must have been obvious to (Sergeant T) that she had become very upset but he carried on talking to her until she had to leave the room because she could not take it any longer. She describes feeling panicky and sick. She told the Tribunal that she stood outside the main building to try to pull herself together because she was having a severe panic attack. She felt she should see the Personnel Officer to describe what had happened and she wanted to go home. The Personnel Officer in fact was not in at that particular time but she saw another civilian worker who could see how upset she was and who took her into the staff kitchen to calm her down, made her coffee etc and informed another member of staff from the Personnel Team that there had been this problem and that (the claimant) needed to see the Personnel Officer. The person…told (the claimant) that she had done the right thing in removing herself from the conversation and she would let the Personnel Officer know when she arrived, and indeed (the claimant) saw the Personnel Officer later that day."
"(The claimant) told the Tribunal that (Sergeant T's) office was somewhat disorganised at the time in question-there was no desk or table but there were chairs and they were both seated. The office was in the process of moving. Both parties were seated to start with and the Sergeant was softly spoken at the outset, but she felt there was some sarcasm. When she declined to change her rest days, she says that (Sergeant T's) tone of voice became more assertive and the volume increased. She was asked whether there had been any point at which he was shouting. (At this point the statement refers to a correction to the Record of Proceedings to indicate that the claimant in fact said that Sergeant T did not shout.) (The claimant) confirmed that there were no physical threats. However, she said she felt threatened. (Sergeant T) was a large man in uniform. She was a civilian worker. She had no-one else in the room with her. Asked whether there was any instance of physical intimidation that she could identify, she believed that he had leant forward in his chair and he might have got up and wandered around the office but at what point she could not say. In terms of whether there was anything unusual about the conversation, she considered it was a breach of protocol because asking her about her shift pattern was a Human Resources issue and therefore someone from Personnel should have been there. Her previous conversation with him, when she had provided the private information to him, was also in private and at his instigation and this would have been in February or March soon after he had arrived in the Department. She had not felt threatened by that because he had not raised the matter before. The Tribunal noted that (the claimant's) computer diary showed an entry for an unidentified date in march 2004 when she mentioned that (Sergeant T) had discussed the sort of shift patterns and cover that he wanted and the Tribunal was told this was an open office meeting."
"The Tribunal in this case makes no finding about whether (Sergeant T's) conversation with the claimant was proper or not. The Tribunal is not qualified to make such a statement because it has no access to the data which would enable it to determine this. Further, it is not necessary to the Tribunals' decision that it should decide whether this was a proper conversation for (Sergeant T) to have with (the claimant). The Tribunal's decision is based on there being no evidence of any untoward event. (Sergeant T) said something to (the claimant) which was very unwelcome to her and it precipitated a panic reaction. However, it was the words, in the entirely personal and private context of (the claimant's) reasons for not wanting to change her shift pattern, which caused the injury of which she complains, and not any action on the part of (Sergeant T). There is no evidence that she was at any time put physically under threat. She complains that the situation was of its nature intimidating, that she as a civilian woman in an office alone with (Sergeant T), a man in uniform. However, as a civilian worker in a Police office she must have been used to such situations. Even if she had not been, there was nothing which occurred in the course of the conversation which crosses the threshold which makes it identifiable as an accident which occurred in the course of her employment."
"If the suggestion were put to the man in the street that an employee's suspension, pending an investigation of his conduct, was an accident, he would regard it as absurd. Employees are regularly suspended or dismissed, but these actions are never regarded as accidents. In some cases such action may well be unexpected, but that does not make it an accident."
"I agree with the view expressed in CI/5249/95 that a perfectly proper conversation cannot constitute an accident because it seems to me that it may be an event but not an untoward event. However, I do not agree with the suggestion in C.I. 7/71 that the use of language alone can never constitute an accident. In my view, the tribunal in the present case were quite entitled to regard the three material interviews as being sufficient to amount to accidental causes of any injury that flowed from them. On the tribunal's findings, those interviews were quite untoward.
However, I must emphasise that, for a person to be entitled to disablement benefit in consequence of a conversation, it is the conversation itself that must cause the injury rather than the fact of suspension or dismissal or criticism. In other words, it is the event that is important. If a person is dismissed and suffers depression due to contemplating the consequent loss of financial security or loss of status, that by itself is not enough to show injury by accident. If, however, psychological harm is caused by the manner of dismissal, then the events surrounding the dismissal can amount to an accidental cause of the harm."
"Given that "accident" includes deliberate actions, and that words can constitute assault or other crimes to the person, the statement in C.I. 7.71 is too general. For example, verbal sexual harassment at work might be such in extreme cases as to amount to an accident or series of accidents, as might misinformation designed to shock or causing shock. I note that in the recent decision of CI/4642/97 and linked cases, the Commissioner reaches the same conclusion. Any claim that words cause an accident must also be taken in context. This conversation reopened an issue that had clearly traumatised the claimant. That is relevant in considering its effect on her. It was not just the words by themselves that must be considered, but the context of the words concerned." (para 8).
"The sole employee in a small business, such as a corner shop, might be shocked if the employer suddenly announced that he is investigating the possibility that the employee has been pilfering stock or taking money from the till. In other employments, there are regular spot stock and cash checks because there are large amounts of "attractive" stock and numerous employees. Employees will normally be unconcerned by such procedures: but a vulnerable employee might well be badly shocked by a conversation following a stock check in which he is told, correctly or incorrectly, that his stock his short." (para. 33)
(signed on the original) E A L Bano
Commissioner
23 August 2006